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Poster: billydlions Date: May 22, 2010 7:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: non-Dead: live Oil Gusher video feed

The one thing about both of the Pauls' is that you always know where they stand. Even though I tend to disagree with a lot of their views at least they have the courage to say what they believe.

I live in S Florida, just a few miles from the ocean so this is hitting pretty close to home. We all depend on oil and I'm no different so in some sense he is correct that this is just an accident (although I cannot understand why BP doesn't have plans in place for what to do in an emergency)

I can only imagine what the media reaction would be to this if George Bush was still president. I guarantee it would be totally different!

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: May 22, 2010 10:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: non-Dead: live Oil Gusher video feed

Some wise words BD . Humans f up . Wow - that never happens . Can't legislate that one away . I would have more respect for folks with views espousing hatred of all things oily if , and only if , they gave up every single product that they use that is tainted by eVil oil . No more posting. No more listening to GD - or any recorded music . No more plastics of any kind ... ahh no more Jello . No more lots of stuff I just don't care to list > way to long . Sure we all would love cold fusion , ect. , but if we want to live this lifestyle - that the world wants to live as well , and will regardless of anything we can do - this is one of the shitty prices to pay . It's the galling self-righteousness that grabs me every time . A twist on GGutfelds' quote - I became a liberal by hanging out with socialists, I became a conservative by hanging out with liberals , then I became nothing by hanging out with conservatives . " GW was right , it's not at all about political parties ( GWash. Farewell Address ), it's about a free people loving and respecting liberty . What's that old expression ? "It's the liberty , stupid ." Something like that.



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Poster: midnight sun Date: May 22, 2010 11:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: non-Dead: live Oil Gusher video feed

"Everything in moderation." (ya, i know, it's a tired old phrase...)

i don't think it is a question of all or nothing, there's enough for everyone if people just started making individual choices...buy quality that you know will last many lifetimes and chose local independents whenever possible, the multi-nationals are the ones trying to perpetuate all of this madness by undercutting small biz with cheap crap, if we don't like what these assholes are doing to the planet then stop funding them...make do with less, a walk in the forest or a swim at the beach opposed to owning an ATV or a speed boat, our own vanity is what's killing us, a hard drive full of live music can provide countless hours of entertainment and enlightenment at a relatively insignificant cost to our future...live close to work and a neighborhood worth hanging in, that's a big one for me cause i choose to be close to nature and relish my solitude, if i'm to wean myself off the big oil tit then i need to consider either a career change to something like farming or eco tourism, or give up my ideal location altogether...get into alt energy, peak oil is over the bell curve, sooner or later we are going to have to either adapt or perish, almost everyone is capable of maintaining their own rooftop solar/wind generation, lithium storage battery technology has come a long way in terms of longevity and eco friendly components, the only reason people haven't done this en mass is because it's still cheaper and easier to plug into THE WALL...

of course it is never quite that simple, i sure don't have all the answers nor does any one individual, but together...

i agree with you Micah in the sense that we shouldn't be waiting for politicians to lead the way, elected officials can be easily replaced by BIG BIZ and can't change any of this even if they wanted to, they're put in place through the bidding of the money men who control us in more ways than we can imagine...all of these forces only have power over us because we so readily hand it over to them due to fear, greed and ignorance

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: May 22, 2010 3:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: non-Dead: live Oil Gusher video feed

Fear, greed and ignorance run the world , I just wish it wasn't so . Wishes and buts , and some mixed nuts don't make granola - usually broken , bloody or dead people .

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Poster: midnight sun Date: May 22, 2010 5:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: non-Dead: live Oil Gusher video feed

my mistake, change that last line to, "all of these forces only have power over us because we so readily hand it over to them due to our own fear, greed and ignorance"

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Poster: hippie64 Date: May 22, 2010 8:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: non-Dead: live Oil Gusher video feed

"The one thing about both of the Pauls' is that you always know where they stand"

Well you got me there, HaHa :)

"I can only imagine what the media reaction would be to this if George Bush was still president."

I'm afraid that we (America) will be feeling the effects of the Bush administration for generations to come. Obama will to , but it won't be because of his colossal failure as a president.(he being 1st black prez) They both have been graded on a very generous curve IMHO

Oil is a necessary thing men risk there life daily do bring it to us, Humans will never not need it. We as a nation do terrible injustices to our planet in the name of progress.

I love Jerry and Merl, I could'nt find a "Save Mother Earth' on the 'tube but this works for me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45bLk96cu_U

This post was modified by hippie64 on 2010-05-22 15:09:41

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: May 22, 2010 8:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: non-Dead: live Oil Gusher video feed

Every terrible injustice Is always done in the name of progress, @ least since recorded history. Maybe they had a whole other deal going beforehand , but probably not. We always think so much better of ourselves and our own motivations. What utopian vision is out there in the mirage that you seek ? Nothing is out there but the ash heap of history and bad trips.